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Hate Speech or Free Speech: The further oppression of Israel Folau


Because of the climate of oppression we now live in, let me be totally clear I abhor much if not all of what Israel Folau says and writes. However, he and we live, for the moment in a free society. Yet it seems this freedom is only if you conform to the views of a minority of very vociferous activists who attack loudly anything they disapprove of.

I subscribe to this quote from Thomas Paine:

He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.

Thus we see today:

Israel Folau’s controversial GoFundMe campaign to raise funds for his legal action against Rugby Australia has been shut down by the website.

Former NSW and Wallabies star Folau started the campaign, after RA sacked him following his controversial social media posts, in which he said gay people, among others, would go to hell unless they repent.

He launched the crowdfunding last week, saying he and wife, Silver Fern Maria, had spent $100,000 of their own money as they fought to keep his rugby career in Australia.

He claimed he was sacked because of his religious beliefs. MORE AT LINK

Now GoFundMe is a private platform, but it could be argued that it effectively promotes itself as a ‘public’ or ‘town’ square and thus is a public space with an obligation to allow a diversity of appeals.

However, it has yielded to a vociferous campaign against Folau by a rabid pack of SJWs who purport to be offended by what Folau has said about homosexuals.

What Folau actually posted was


There was a list of offenders, but the entire focus has been on the fact that his remarks were viewed as homophobic. Heaven know what would have happened if the Bible had included Muslims in that list.

Now Folau quoted the bible. Should we now ban the bible?

Incidentally the Quran states:

Quran (7:80-84) – “…For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds…. And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)” – An account that is borrowed from the Biblical story of Sodom. Muslim scholars through the centuries have interpreted the “rain of stones” on the town as meaning that homosexuals should be stoned, since no other reason is given for the people’s destruction. (Inexplicably, the story is also repeated in three other suras: 15:74, 27:58 and 29:40).

To be fair there are differing Quranic scholastic interpretations of this, but several Islamic countries prescribe the death penalty for homosexuality.

Should we now ban the Quran?

It seems to me that Folau is a victim of a campaign of hate because he espouses a viewpoint that is unacceptable to many people, principally because he was seen as attacking the LGBT+ brigade of gender fascists aided and abetted by fellow travellers and some in the media.

At the same time I have seen some LGBT people defend Folau on free speech grounds, so the LGBT condemnation is not universal.

The reality is well summed up in these tweets

and this was the bigotry Zanetti was calling out

The latent tyranny of the mob revealed, and unfortunately it is everywhere. Politicians, Media, virtually everyone is ducking for cover.

Who are the biggest bigots here?

George Orwell:

” If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. “

One Comment
  1. 25/06/2019 10:07

    ” If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. “

    And that includes the right for the rest of us to tell the Rugby thug to “fuck off”, we don’t care what you believe.

    This is NOT about religious freedom, this is not about freeze peach, this is about what is and isn’t appropriate behaviour in the workplace.

    On his gofundme he posted “Do you believe in the right of Australians to practice their religion without fear of discrimination in the workplace?”.

    The only people who get to practice their religion in their workplace are priests, ministers, imams, and the other assorted sky pilots, god-botherers and bible thumpers. The workplace must be free from religion.

    Folau is also a typical, hypocritical, Christian, seems to be their default setting.

    Leviticus 19:28

    The Australian Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, freedom to worship god(s) as one chooses. It does not confer the right to impose religious views on others. Those who want to make this about “religious freedom” are in fact trying to move the law to permit discrimination against non-religious by religious people. It is a naked grab for power.


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